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So How Does a Centaur Eat, Anyway?

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Published on April 3, 2017

Selection from "Feast of Centaurs" by Edoardo Ettore Forti, c.1890s
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Selection from "Feast of Centaurs" by Edoardo Ettore Forti, c.1890s

This is entirely the fault of the staff writers. Also, the weather. I take no responsibility for the consequences.

So they were all a bit loopy from the latest blizzard, and got to talking, as one does, and shortly thereafter, I received the following:

Our staff writers were just debating how centaurs work (it’s been a long, slushy week, in our defense!), and how, for example, they would eat: do they have horse stomachs or human stomachs?

And here was I, in equally terrible but diametrically opposite weather–the heat had truly gone to my evil little head. I pondered for exactly three and a half seconds before concluding that that is a very good question. A very good question indeed.

A quick wielding of the google reveals that the subject of centaur anatomy has been much discussed and debated over the centuries. Anatomical drawings and recreations are remarkably numerous; I’m particularly taken with this elegant example. There is even a learned monograph by an eminent pseudoscientist who goes by the handle Univ.-Prof. Dr. Dr. H.C. Reinhard V. Putz, in the Annals of Improbable Research, of course. Nor has Tor.com been absent from the debate. In 2012, Robert Lamb offered a brief disquisition on the subject, essentially quoting Reinhard.

The upshot of all this is that because the Centaur’s delivery system for nutrition is a human or humanoid head and torso—therefore a human-sized jaw, teeth, and esophagus—the Centaur must necessarily live on human food, and its horse stomach will have been modified to accommodate an omnivorous diet. The Greek tradition backs this up, with Centaurs eating bread and meat and drinking wine. There is no way the conventional Centaur can chew grass or hay with a human jaw, let alone consume it in sufficient quantities to support the mass of its body. Just look at what a horse needs to get the job done.

A nice discussion here gets into details and logistics. One commenter notes that the bulk of the horse half would point toward the Centaur having equine-type nutritional needs and the corresponding colic problems: i.e., needing a high-fiber diet, needing to keep moving while it eats, and needing high volumes of water to keep the system in motion. In short, a one-way digestive system, for which stoppages or blockages can be fatal.

As for why this would have to be the case, even if the horse half had a human-style stomach, with the ability to vomit, the small size of the neck and head would make it all too likely the Centaur would drown if its horse-sized stomach tried to back up through its human-sized esophagus.

One way to get around the issue is to size the Centaur down considerably.  If the human half is average human size, the equine half would be small-pony-sized or even goat-sized. Not very noble or imposing, but somewhat more logistically possible.

But really, who wants a six-limbed Satyr when we can have a full-sized Centaur? We can bear in mind that ancient Greek horses were considerably smaller than the modern variety. Probably not as much as the Parthenon friezes might indicate—at least some of that may have been convention, to make humans look bigger and therefore more impressive—but they were still under fifteen hands, and probably well under. Pony-sized, in short.

A well-built pony or small horse can easily carry an adult male, so if the Centaur is fourteen hands or so at what would be his withers (if he didn’t spring up into the human torso), he still has plenty of substance. But then what does he eat? And how does he process it?

If his human segment is essentially a stalk to support the brain, with perhaps a secondary set of heart and lungs to augment the ones in the horse half, and an elongated esophagus leading to the enlarged digestive system in the horse segment, most of the action will happen down in the horse part. If I were designing the organism, I would definitely substitute an omnivore’s stomach and intestines, because the horse version is so prone to failure. So I tend to agree with that line of thought.

The issue of backup and drowning would have to be resolved somehow. Extra stomachs for extra processing, like a bovine? A sphincter down around the area where the navel would be in a human, to void excess gas and liquid? (The logistics of that could get interesting. Centaur wears essentially a sporran, to catch the overflow. Could be developed into elaborate ritual garment with much decoration, and contents would be emptied in privacy, perhaps buried or washed away with appropriate ceremony, like various cultures’ female menstrual traditions.)

Even if the Centaur can function as an omnivore, he’ll still need to consume enough calories to support at least 750 pounds/340 kilograms of muscle and bone. That means he eats constantly, and he eats a lot. He drinks copiously, too—and if he’s Greek, that means barrels of wine. His manure will be… fragrant. Very fragrant. You’ll be able to smell a Centaur encampment from a long ways away, unless the Centaurs are obsessive about sanitation.

There really isn’t a plausible way to keep the horse digestive system intact, because it can’t process the diet that’s coming through the human half, and because there’s no way the human half can chew and swallow multiple pounds of fodder every day. Unless…

A herbivore has to graze constantly in order to support the bulk of its body, because a grass and forage diet while high in fiber is low in calories. An equine also needs to grind the forage thoroughly, and hydrate it well, in order to process it. I’ve noted that human teeth are not adequate for this.

But if the human segment were essentially support for the brain and the first set of heart and lungs—various internet commenters arguing that the human brain is too small to operate the whole body are apparently unaware that a full-sized horse’s brain is the size of a human fist—and the equine segment contains the second and much larger lungs and heart plus the digestive and the reproductive systems, along with additional essential organs including liver and kidneys, there just may be room in the human torso, where the mass of the stomach, intestines, and the liver and lights would normally go, to house an organ unique to the Centaur.

(Editor’s note: Judith’s solution is too horrifying for us to consider further. We’re sorry we asked for this, you’ll have to continue on without us…)

That would be something like an elephant’s trunk, but with an extended jaw and grinding teeth. When not in use it would coil in the human segment’s abdominal cavity. It would extrude through an orifice in the join between the human and horse halves, and hoover along happily while the Centaur thinks great thoughts and instructs its fellow Centaurs and its human students therein.

The trunk has the added virtue of being able to drink as well as eat, so that while the human mouth will do some drinking and a moderate amount of eating—strictly vegetarian, of course, and shading toward vegan—the whole organism receives most of its nutrition through the alternative route. Centaur feasts would extremely interesting proceedings, though in the presence of human guests, the ultra-civilized Centaurs would be careful to restrict themselves to their human eating apparatus.

This might explain both the Greek belief that Centaurs eat like humans, and the Cretan Centaur, which was essentially a human, with human legs, but attached to the hindquarters of a horse. Observers would think that the trunk was a very large reproductive organ, and matrix the forelegs into human legs. But no, the actual Centaur is constructed like a horse in that respect (and if female, that’s a good thing, because Centaur babies would be much too large to emerge through a human birth canal).

All in all, I’d say it’s possible to engineer a Centaur that works, but the straight splicing of human torso on equine body isn’t going to do it. I’m with Team Omnivore and Team Modified Equine Digestive System myself, but if we get to think outside the box, I kind of like the idea of the additional grazing mechanism. Especially if we’re playing with fantasy or science fiction worldbuilding, and designing our own version of the species.

Judith Tarr is a lifelong horse person. She supports her habit by writing works of fantasy and science fiction as well as historical novels, many of which have been published as ebooks by Book View Cafe. Her most recent short novel, Dragons in the Earth, features a herd of magical horses, and her space opera, Forgotten Suns, features both terrestrial horses and an alien horselike species (and space whales!). She lives near Tucson, Arizona with a herd of Lipizzans, a clowder of cats, and a blue-eyed spirit dog.

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Dr. Thanatos
8 years ago

One question: do centaurs (like horses) chew their cud? If so, what would be the social mores that would arise from this, both when centaurs dine alone and when they break bread with humans? Are there vomitoria in the depths of the Forbidden Forest? Does a centaur have a polite “excuse me for a moment” during a testimonial dinner? 

Food for thought, as it were…

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Nick Larter
8 years ago

Having, um…digested the ideas above, I can’t help thinking that a centaur’s life would be simpler if the front bit – torso, arms, legs – functioned more or less as a human and the back bit was just a specially modified rectum – for what purpose, who knows?  Perhaps a colony of sentient parasites could live there, emerging at night to forage?

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8 years ago

Not quite what C.S. Lewis envisoned,  but I like it.

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8 years ago

I had to go look up what CSL wrote about the diet of the Centaur in The Silver Chair:

“A Centaur has a man-stomach and a horse-stomach. And of course both want breakfast. So first of all he has porridge and pavenders and kidneys and bacon and omelette and cold ham and toast and marmalade and coffee and beer. And after that he tends to the horse part of himself by grazing for an hour or so and finishing up with a hot mash, some oats, and a bag of sugar. That’s why it’s such a serious thing to ask a Centaur to stay for the weekend. A very serious thing indeed.”

I’m not sure what worries me more: the prospect of the bag of sugar being eaten human-fashion (with a spoon?) or with the proposed …trunk.

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8 years ago

[goes to look up pavender]

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Jenna
8 years ago

I would live under the assumption that the digestive system would be similar to the horse’s origin. Perhaps the human/centaur mix has provided them with enough brains to figure out some sort of grass/veg mix in smoothie form that would provide the caloric/fibrous needs of the equine while negating the needs of the human half to have the proper teeth/musculature to eat it raw

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8 years ago

@7 I seem to recall that human’s ability to cook and otherwise process food has significantly affected the evolution of our mouth and digestive system. So maybe previous centaurids had heavier jaws and teeth but selected towards human-shaped as they got better at processing their food.

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8 years ago

I think that in discussing the improbable ways that a centaur could exist, the article has convinced me why such a beast has never existed.

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mutantalbinocrocodile
8 years ago

@6, saving you some time. “Pavender”: word coined by author C.S. Lewis for The Chronicles of Narnia, meaning an edible, rainbow-colored saltwater fish. Probably can be attributed to a nonsense use (with meaning “pub”) in. . .a verse author I seriously can’t remember at this point.

However, point being, don’t kill yourself looking for the word “pavender” in a dictionary!

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Athreeren
8 years ago

I think this solution deals with the various problems of nutrition. But the main problem is oxygenation: it is the weak human lungs that need to get enough oxygen for both the anterior and the posterior bodies. Yet, centaurs are not constantly panting. We can deduce from this that in addition to their anterior lungs, centaurs do use their posterior ones: they must have gills somewhere.

The more we think about them, the scarier those creatures become!

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8 years ago

@11 Let us pray Charles Stross never reads this. What he did to unicorns was bad enough.

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Quibbler
8 years ago

I personally always figured that Centaurs must be more closely related to Dragons and Pegasi than actual horses or humans, simply because they are six limbed creatures, in a world where four limbs are the norm. Their perceived resemblance to horses is therefore purely coincidental, and likely due to inacurate descriptions (have you ever seen what medieval artists thought a lion or a rhino looked like?).

In conclusion, Centaurs are most likely some kind of giant insect (some kind of enormous, intellegent, fuzzy preying mantis perhaps?), and their dietary habits and internal organs would reflect this.

…and, after I spent ages working that out to my satisfaction, it suddenly occurred to me that Raymond E Feist had got there before me and my sense of accomplishment suddenly vanished…

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8 years ago

If I remember correctly, in World of Tiers Philip Jose Farmer had gengineered centaurs who were obligate carnivores, as that was the only solution their creator could find for their caloric needs. Also too: the centaurs had an extra organ–basically a bellows–to force oxygen from the human body to the horse body.

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8 years ago

Have you read Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human?  It’s central thesis is that cooking allows one to get more usable calories from the same amount of food, because you spend many fewer calories chewing  and digesting.  This let humans evolve larger brains that use more calories thinking and being intelligent.  You see proto-humans evolve smaller jaws and guts at the same time as larger brains

What would make sense, since a centaur can cook, would not be to accommodate a horse’s (inefficient) digestive system, but to expand the human digestive system, using that efficency to fuel the larger body.

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Edmond Woychowsky
8 years ago

Phillip Jose Farmer made them carnivores. The half-horses hunted animals, hybrids and humans for food.

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8 years ago

I keep coming back to the spine and that transition between human and horse. Seems to be difficult to retain the flexibility of the horse back while putting a fairly fixed human torso in place of the neck. And we won’t think about saddle fitting.

But the continued inability to vomit, and the ingestion of wine, combine to make an inelegant picture. I had a horse who drank beer from a can (and one who wanted grape soda at shows, primarily I feel to dribble on his grey chest, of course), but he was never served more than the one.

In summary, I too would shun them as house guests.

And Volos is wonderful, did not know about that. I really enjoyed the academic aspects of displaying human remains, and negotiating funding sources. Cheers to the university library!

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8 years ago

Animorphs dodges the issue with an even weirder solution — the centaur-like Andalites absorb crushed grass and water through the bottoms of their hooves. I don’t know where it goes from there. They have no mouths, and are prone to wild one-person feeding frenzies whenever they shapeshift into some creature with a mouth and a sense of taste. 

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8 years ago

@5: Thanks for looking up the Narnia reference. I didn’t have time yesterday. 

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Maria Rose
8 years ago

I enjoyed this article’s discussion of dietary habits of centaurs as it raised some interesting theories. I liked best the view, taken along evolution lines as to the combination of human head and torso with a horse body. Considering the time line factors as to when these creatures supposedly lived here on earth, much of the population of humans did not live in cities either, so camp sites were the preferred way, which makes nomadic living a means to live.

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Adrienne Driggs
8 years ago

I think that we all want to see an anatomical figure of this idea. Both horrifying and intriguing. 

emmac75
8 years ago

: Insects, that would be an interesting way of doing a Centaur…. Insects do not have lungs (only arachnids -yuk -have them), they have (I’ll cite wikipedia for this) “…a series of external openings called spiracles. These external openings, which act as muscular valves, lead to the internal respiratory system, a densely networked array of tubes called tracheae…” End of the wikiepdia ref.

So, maybe, if they breath like insects, they would eat like them? Think at all the possibilities the insect world offer! Of course, the question would then be, what are they made of? Because, once again, if I remember correctly, insects are made of chitin…

ok, I don’t know where we are going there but I’m pretty sure the Centaur we would get with that type of arrangements would me much more scarrier than a man-horse with a trunk under its belly….

BonHed
8 years ago

@1: That is not what a vomitorium is for. If you’ve been to a stadium or theater, you’ve been in a vomitorium: it’s the passageway between the auditorium & the outside. It has nothing to do with the digestive system.

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Ross Presser
8 years ago

Unfortunately I now require a drawing of that horrible trunk organ.

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Thaddeus Howze
8 years ago

As a writer whose online moniker is — The Answer-Man — an associate directed me to this “gedankenexperiment” (thought experiment) hoping I would find it interesting. She knows me all too well. 

I enjoyed this immensely, watching your design elements trying to explain how such a thing could be using a degree of reality reserved specifically for science fiction.

I agree with many of your commenters: This design could only exist biologically with radical transformations of the design of both animals. I favor enhancing the biology of the Human section of the body. Rather than eating more, the answer is to increase the caloric draw from the food. 

The average human only consumes 14% of the energy contained in our food. What if these super-equinoids could draw 95% of the nutritional value from anything they ate. Total omnivores, they would eat anything slower than they were and if they are tool using, nothing could escape the physical and tool using advantages they would have.

Lengthen the gastrointestinal system, adding multiple layers of redundancy for the nutrient draw and instead of powerfully stinking piles of horse dung, you would have instead, tidy and tiny pellets drawn almost completely dry, having no nutrient content whatsoever, almost a completely perfect fertilizer/composting element. (See: Goat droppings)

Enhance the human musculature until it has the same white cell musculature similar to the great apes for a human aspect nearly as powerful as their equine one, without taking up a significantly greater space. This would make them fantastically strong, capable of ripping a man apart with their bare (and likely larger) hands.

Gene-engineer super-durable teeth or the ability to, like sharks have a gum line capable of producing new teeth in a matter of weeks for the rest of their lives, no matter how many are lost during the eating process. The ever-replacing teeth seem easier to design, though teeth composed of diamond-like carbon nanotubes could be interesting.

As to the air intake, why not introduce gill-like manifolds on the side of the equine leading directly to the lungs. This keeps the design simple and yet effective. The act of running pumps the bellows allowing for increased air intake. It might explain why centaurs aren’t fond of armor.

As for fluid, they would still need to drink quite a bit, particularly after running. To compensate for their necessary extra fluid intake, they could still have the prehensile trunk/penis which in this case could act as a cloaca, capable of taking in water, releasing what little liquid waste they expel as well as being used to deposit sperm as needed. 

To make them more interesting, having them be interested in the preparation and energy value of food seems to be a reasonable biological adaptation. They would likely create concentrated energy foods only they could eat since most humans would lack the biology to make much use of their more energy-dense specially prepared food. (See: Pemmican) Human food served in Human portions would seem like the equivalent of hor devours, just enough to be polite. For them to gain the proper nutrition, they would need to eat energy-rich and/or protein-rich foods. 

Needless to say, in the presence of humanoids, they may keep their full physical capacities a secret, preferring to drink and eat them out of house and home under the guise of hospitality, knowing their super-efficient biologies can eat and draw nutrition from anything from wild boar to raw tree bark during those hard times. 

Thank you, I enjoyed this very much. Please make more.

The Answer-Man (http://answer-man.net)

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felix
8 years ago

it definetly needs the larger lungs for oxygen when running

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Ann Chatham
8 years ago

You might solve some of the chewing problem by having a gizzard in place of the human digestive system.  Taken as a genetic engineering problem (as opposed to just convergent evolution) birds have some rather better mechanisms for both oxygen intake and temperature control without sweating, which would reduce the water needs a bit also.

(The problem with the insect hypothesis is those spiracles mentioned above– the 3-foot-long Cretaceous dragonflies are no longer around because passive oxygen exchange can only scale up when you’ve got higher oxygen concentrations in the atmosphere.)

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GARY JORDAN
8 years ago

When I finished shaking my head, I observed that centaurs, monotaurs, satyrs, etc. live in a world where the gods take an active role. The obvious answer is “Because Magic,” and mundane logic about calories and lung size are not relevant.

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Athreeren
8 years ago

@29: If you want to dramatically improve the energy intake from food, you might as well directly replace the stomach with a fusion reactor. There are precedents for this in fairy tales.

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Denise L.
8 years ago

I kind of think a centaur would almost have to have at least two stomachs.  I was wondering about the possibility that they might have an extra organ, something like a modified gizzard, to help digest foods their human-sized teeth and jaws couldn’t break down fully.

And no, they can’t bend down to graze, but their human brain and hands mean they could develop and use tools to get the job done without the need to bend over.

Alternatively, could they have evolved to graze on foliage from trees rather than grass, like a sauropod?  (Funnily enough, some historians believe it was the ancient Greeks’ discovery of bones from dinosaurs and other ancient creatures that led to their belief in beings like centaurs.)

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8 years ago

Just a note @17 et al:  Horses can consume and receive nutritional benefit from meat.  Horses in Iceland are salted fish for the protein and mineral/salts.  Tibetans feed their horses blood mixed with gruel.  In Europe horses meant for human consumption are tested for trichinosis (that parasite is picked up only by meat eaters).   Alexander fed his horse Bucephalus raw meat and there are more modern accounts of horses being fed raw meat after forced marches and other extremely strenuous events.  

If the human stomach/intestines part of a centaur was considered pre-digestion, by the time the meat got to the horse part it wouldn’t be a problem anyway.  

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8 years ago

Now that others have mentioned it, breathing and circulation are issues, too. 

I’m thinking you’d need to dedicate the entire “human” upper body to heart and lungs, to support the entire centaur body.  Then the lower body would have the digestive system and other vital organs.  Probably of roughly human design, since the digestive system would have to be supplied by a human jaw and mouth.  (Lots of cooked food, not a lot of grass and raw grain…)  

Perhaps not making the stomach larger than a human, but with a larger intestine to extract food more efficiently, and the stomach would have to be filled more than the 2-3 times a day typical for humans.  They’d be eating like Hobbits – breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies, etc.  Perhaps a double stomach – the first one gets filled at a mealtime and performs preliminary digestion, then emptied into the second stomach to complete the “stomach” portion of digestion, so the first is ready for the next meal faster than for a human.  

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8 years ago

@37 – By that logic, humans couldn’t have evolved, either, as we require a primarily cooked diet, and cannot survive entirely on raw, wild, unprocessed foods.  

Centaurs would have had to evolved in a way parallel to early humans – starting out with jaws and guts more like chimpanzees or gorillas, and then evolving smaller guts and larger brains suitable to a cooked food diet once they learned to control fire.

(Is anyone else having problems commenting here?  I can comment from Internet Explorer, but not from Chrome.  It’s been that way for days.)

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7 years ago

I think the they mostly run on magic works best.   I suspect they would be very fond of oatmeal, raw vegetables and salad.

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George Pisleag
4 years ago

i observe an error. You consider proportion centaurs disproportion. I think biologically corect is human half centaurs is adapted horse half. The centaurshuman half are be giant half. I think centaurs is half giant/half horse 

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PeregrineFlight
2 years ago

This article gives the author’s bio a whole new meaning.

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Heather
1 year ago

How & where do they urinate & poop? 

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Philippa Chapman
1 year ago

@42 If the friezes from The Parthenon in Athens are correct, [citation, British Museum] male centaurs have their gonads in the horse part. So, by inference, the poop also comes out somewhere in that area, like a standard horse.